Wednesday, October 19, 2011

Above Average NFL Quarterbacks



Carson Palmer is heading to Oakland! I must admit that I didn’t think Palmer would play this season and that he’d be involved in a draft day trade next year. But a possible two No. 1 picks is really hard to turn down, particularly for a guy who almost can’t return as a Bengal. Big win for Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis.

The deal places a lot of pressure on Palmer. Can he step out of the gym and on to the field and justify the hefty price tag? One thing going for Palmer is a great running game which might become even better since the big right hander’s resume commands more respect than Jason Campbell and certainly the next man up, Kyle Boller.

Trades don’t happen often in the NFL. Being the ultimate team game, it’s hard to pull and plug players from one system to another and expect similar results. This isn’t baseball. But given all of the frustration from fans regarding Joe Flacco, I wondered if given the opportunity to make this same deal and you were Ozzie Newsome, would you?

I happen to consider Flacco to be an above average quarterback and in the case of the NFL that means he had to fall in the top 15 quarterbacks. If you take Peyton Manning out of the equation because we aren’t exactly sure at this time if he’ll ever resume his career, the top 15 in my opinion are:

Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
Sam Bradford
Matt Stafford
Matt Schaub
Josh Freeman
Michael Vick
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Tony Romo
Eli Manning
Ryan Fitzpatrick

Arguments could be made that Cam Newton, Jay Cutler, Kevin Kolb, Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Sanchez all belong in this grouping. Some might argue that players like Andy Dalton and Colt McCoy will soon be part of this group. And certainly Carson Palmer qualifies as above average. Add it up and that’s 23 quarterbacks, probably 12 of which could jockey for the bottom five spots in the Top 15.

Where does Flacco sit in your opinion?

And if you have him towards the bottom third of the top 15 it remains an interesting, volatile and debatable question, “Would you trade an above average QB for 2 No. 1’s?” You can vote here.

The Palmer deal might evolve into a win-win but if the Bengals don’t bungle those picks, it is a big win for them particularly since Palmer was never going to take another snap as a Bengal and Mike Brown’s dusty wallet can remain dusty. He won’t have to pick it up to pay Palmer again.

And I thought that the cinema adaptation of Mike Brown’s life would feature the dude from Weekend at Bernie’s! Brown deserves credit for this fleecing.

3 comments :

Jerry B said...

The Palmer trade looks like a "win" for Oakland, who has a good team that just got better! Palmer has always been above average and will no doubt thrive under the watchful eye of Hue Jackson. As for giving up draft picks, they are "crap shoots" at best and, when you have the opportunity to acquire a Palmer and improve your team, it's a "no brainer"! Which leads me to Joe Flacco, who I believe as you do is an above average talent whose growth, in my opinion, has been stunted in a poor system with poor coaching. When Cameron was in San Diego, he thought so much of Drew Brees that they drafted Eli Manning/Philip Rivers, with Brees moving on to New Orleans where he has thrived under Sean Payton! I know we sometimes place too much importance on coaching, but a look at this year's Ravens' "D" performance compared with much the same unit under Greg Mattison, is proof positive that coaching can and does often make a difference! Flacco is much better than this system and coach allows him to be........

Jerry B said...

The Palmer trade looks like a "win" for Oakland, who has a good team that just got better! Palmer has always been above average and will no doubt thrive under the watchful eye of Hue Jackson. As for giving up draft picks, they are "crap shoots" at best and, when you have the opportunity to acquire a Palmer and improve your team, it's a "no brainer"! Which leads me to Joe Flacco, who I believe as you do is an above average talent whose growth, in my opinion, has been stunted in a poor system with poor coaching. When Cameron was in San Diego, he thought so much of Drew Brees that they drafted Eli Manning/Philip Rivers, with Brees moving on to New Orleans where he has thrived under Sean Payton! I know we sometimes place too much importance on coaching, but a look at this year's Ravens' "D" performance compared with much the same unit under Greg Mattison, is proof positive that coaching can and does often make a difference! Flacco is much better than this system and coach allows him to be........

richieG said...

I love Flacco - I think that not playing against D1 competition has been a factor in his NFL development, but he has taken a huge leap this season. And, he has been stifled in his first 3 years with slow receivers and a mediocor O-line. I'd love to see how great Peyton/Brady/Rogers would be w/Joe's "playmakers". AND, let's not forget, last year in Pitt, no matter what happened as the Ravens blew a 14 point lead, if Boldin had caught the virtually perfect TD pass in the closing minutes, the Ravens win...if TJH had caught the perfect 4th down pass, the Ravens at least tie for OT!!!